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Robin Andrewartha
21.06.2022That ratchet and clank background music?
Tank
21.06.2022I mean sniper is op
Mercce
21.06.2022"That look an awful lot like a jar of piss." – Jonathan Ferguson, the keepet of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armory Museum in the UK.
Koi
16.06.2022Projectiles are inherently harder to aim than hitscan, and that difficulty increases as range increases. The reason the Huntsman gets a pass is because of this increased cost in skill. A sniper rifle can hit the enemy at the same speed regardless of range, and the only real difference is in how small the head is on your screen. A Huntsman arrow has travel time, and can reach a point where someone can react to you shooting an arrow and dodge out of the way, on longer sightlines. It's far less oppressive to be in a Huntsman's sightline, when it has a longer cooldown between shots, travel time, lower damage, and less ammunition than the rifles.
Put simply, a sniper rifle can deal 150 damage in a fraction of a second at any range. The Huntsman takes longer to reach an enemy, with that time increasing with distance, making ranged shots more about prediction and gamesense than just pure aim. Both take skill, just different kinds of skill, and the Huntsman tends to feel more fair when on the receiving end.
Laatmaas Quanariin
16.06.2022I love how the huntsman has a relatively low bodysuit dmg, but that doesn't matter because the headset hit box takes up like a 3rd of the model
(I don't know if this has been changed, but it's still som bs)
404no
16.06.2022Omg the ratchet and clank music
Billy W
16.06.2022I think part of why jarate isn’t considered OP is that it’s been the same for a decade
The5lacker
16.06.2022A Cost that you touched on but didn’t get into is Opportunity Cost: I.E. you only have so many weapon slots, and each slot is its own unique list of choices. For the Jarate, the opportunity cost is you don’t have your SMG or a backpack, for example. It’s a fairly obvious cost, granted, but it can be important in regards to balance that things are compared to what occupies the same slot, what those other things allow you to do, and therefor what you lose the ability to do.
Still totally worth it in regards to the Jarate because so many things in that slot occupy the same general role, only worse (protecting yourself at close range for SMG, countering spies for raserback, countering pyros for Darwins.)
timothy ching
16.06.2022the reason that jarate isn't really complained about as much as it should be is because it's very antithetical to the sniper's design. sniper is inherently selfish, his only real goal most of the time being getting picks. whenever a large fight breaks out, sniper can get picks, but he's much more useful during the neutral game, where people are sort of just throwing damage at each other. jarate, on the other hand, is not selfish, and encourages you to use it to help your team. this means it feels very weird to use on sniper, because it makes you play the class in a really strange way. also, like you said, you don't really have any way to benefit off of the jarate in the way that you can with something like mad milk, unless you're using the bushwacka, so it just feels awkward. the weapon suffers from a lot of the problems the gas passer does, only with a much more powerful effect.
gustav yes
14.06.2022the doctor after i pee in that little cup:
CxlciumMMIV
14.06.2022soo the fuck should we play with? bazaar bargain w cozy camper or default sniper rifle w jarate?
Bonn sin
14.06.2022Honestly, to make it a lot more balanced is that if you're caught in the splash radius, you get hit by it and it gives the enemies mini crits to you,that would make it a lot more balanced and make a lot of people hate using it
HibHab69
14.06.2022Jarate existing doesn't make quickscoping the most nonsense thing ever.
AV Tips
14.06.2022THEORY: since tue forts water is full of lead the piss is then full of lead witch makes it so it’s poisonous
Got_Beef
14.06.2022I'm sure the Jarate is good in the hands of a pro, but in most of every server a jarate is completely useless since they never use it as stated in this video. It's not that no one cares about it, it's just that almost no one uses it in a good way, so who cares?
jthablaidd
11.06.2022Ah yes, the scorch shit, the thing where the perfect scenario is when they’re standing still….like a lot of weapons
DawkGuard 12
11.06.2022Bushwacka: “Allow me to introduce myself.”
Gore Angel
11.06.2022My propose a change for the Jarate. Instead of it charging over 20 seconds, the Sniper has to take 50-100 damage for the Jarate to be recharged, and it is not usable right out of the gates. This way it isn’t a middle finger to spies that manage to get behind you twice or even three times, and it comes at the cost of having to balance delicately between forcing yourself into fights, and backing down when you can’t survive a fight. It may be slightly too much, but hey. Something is better than nothing 🙂
SuperCaitball
11.06.2022No, please do make that video. I'm kind of tired of people telling me Sniper "takes no skill" or "ruins the game".
…sigh, yes I'm a Sniper main. But I'm a fun Sniper main, I swear! ;w;
JoshStar
11.06.2022so basically Jarate is just Gas Passer but done correctly
The8bitRegalis
11.06.2022Huntsman versus Rifle I like the huntsman because it's the only way I can be sure the sniper that joined isn't a cheatbot.
The Alan Reviews
10.06.2022This is a really good video with a well-written script. The ending scared me.
baldman
10.06.2022Bro you sound like a f.cking nerd get a life
Kixx
10.06.2022As a sniper main I'd personally say that for pugs/casual the smg is better just for the self defense as the jarate if you hit someone with it and try to bush wacka them they'll just kite you for a easy kill and most other weapons still kill you before you hit 2 sniper no scopes if they're a a scout, sniper or spy. The jarate thou is much better in a team that is try harding and has communication or you're playing with a few friend and you let them know hey ima jarate them go in.
jthablaidd
10.06.2022Of only those shrimp dick bot makers would make him use jarate only
Mabra
10.06.2022"That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss."
Eva Gershun
10.06.2022look at this guy, he said that jaroty is the worst secondary becuse of bad hit registration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8hK3N5soM&t=307s
zeal
09.06.2022take a shot everytime he says fuck
Tymunster
09.06.2022So this is a general rebalance idea and not a jarate idea, but I had a thought to rotate some of the effects of certain melees. The sun on a stick now ignites players, the sharpened volcano fragment now does bleed, and the tribalman's shiv can get some new stats.
Arlwiss
09.06.20225:48 – nice wall of text; unfortunately the rifles do take far less skill lol. is this where i'm supposed to type "mald" or something
Freebackrubs Halfprice
09.06.2022Context for any non-tf2 player watching this. Yes, he is talking about a jar of piss for 20 minutes.
DumbWays 15
09.06.2022I thought Sniper's best weapon was the Sniper Rifle, but oh well.
SasnarDash
09.06.2022Saying that mad milk is less “off putting” than pee in a jar is bold indeed
Lucas Boom
08.06.2022I feel like bush/jarate combo should be reworked. If scout can't have bonk/cleaver then bush/jarate shouldn't be as busted either.
Roaming Adhocrat
08.06.2022the other thing about jarate is if you leave it alone for 400 years it turns into the borg queen
Painini
08.06.2022Jarate instead of dealing mini crits, coats players and leaves a trail wherever they go. pee. 🙂
Gooby Doo
08.06.2022Love the ratchet and clank music
Gogeta Blue
08.06.202212:36 Only in TF 2 man, Piss!
Tuntor689
08.06.2022I farmed a Strange Jarate to get Hale’s Own Jarate to become Jarate Gaming. Jarate is very funny. I’ve never used it tactically.
Maximiliano Pavón
07.06.2022Kinda late, but what if the jarate was charged via damage. It could have a recharge equal to 600-800 damage. So it rewards a good sniper, with a chance against any rushdown enemies (also i think it should cover you in piss too).
DBArtsCreators
07.06.2022Sniper & Demoman are probably the worst designed classes in the game, and only because their abilities are tweaked just slightly too far in the direction of being too powerful with too few/light weaknesses compared to the strength of that power.
Easy jarate solution: the jarate is dispelled the moment the target takes damage
Panda pruitt
07.06.2022Is this dude seriously saying the huntsman is on the same tier as the sniper rifle when the huntsman literally only shoots like 5 people away from you and can't even with a headshot kill a over healed heavy? Have you even played sniper my dude? You are a low health slow speed player getting within the same range as literally anyone else
Strifle
07.06.202210:09
he just stared blankly at the enemy spy as he kills heavy and then ignores it
ZoahPorre
07.06.2022or they could change the gas passer recharge akin to the jarate….also fuck competitive and competitive balancing.
micro scorpius
07.06.2022How to counter a sniper: Crouch spam, fake running in a straight line, make your movement so uncontrollable even you can barely keep track of where you're going. Be unpredictable. Yes, that is it, take it from a sniper main.
Remember; If I don't know what I'm doing, they can't read me.
Halvos
06.06.2022I love trimping the 2fort bridge, trust me when I say that there are few people that hate the jarate than me.
cheezemonkeyeater
06.06.2022Sniper recharges his jarate every 20 seconds.
I think the guy should see a doctor. Excessive urination is a warning sign for prostate cancer.
Edit: Oh, you end on that joke.
Aiden Farmer
06.06.2022Who would win?
A modern Submachine gun
or
a jar of literal urine
Gary7826
06.06.2022dude, jarate mad milk is like using pheromones in deep rock galactic, its literally a "hey please come attack me i am at my most vulnerable" sign being sticked ontop of whoever's got the both effects and they are not kidding
pixle ace
06.06.2022ok but banna is beter than savish